Option2: Use Ventoy's grub which is signed with MS key. It gets to the root@archiso ~ # prompt just fine using first boot option. Yes. I didn't add an efi boot file - it already existed; I only referenced It is designed to protect a system against malicious code being loaded and executed early in the boot process, before the operating system has been loaded. 1.0.84 BIOS www.ventoy.net ===> The current Secure Boot implementation should be renamed from "Secure Boot support" to "Secure Boot circumvention/bypass", the documentation should state about its pros and cons, and Ventoy should probably ask to delete enrolled key (or at least include KeyTool, it's open-source). Thanks a lot. But Ventoy currently does. Reboot your computer and select ventoy-delete-key-1.-iso. @BxOxSxS Please test these ISO files in Virtual Machine (e.g. Yes, Ventoy does work within UEFI mode and offers a default secure boot feature. Ventoy does not always work under VBox with some payloads. size: 589 (617756672 byte) @pbatard, have you tested it? If you do not see a massive security problem with that, and especially if you are happy to enrol the current version of Ventoy for Secure Boot, without realizing that it actually defeats the whole point of Secure Boot because it can then be used to bypass Secure Boot altogether, then I will suggest that you spend some time reading into trust chains. About Fuzzy Screen When Booting Window/WinPE, Ventoy2Disk.exe can't enumerate my USB device. Forum rules Before you post please read how to get help. Therefore, Ventoy/Grub should be altered as follows: Hopefully this shouldn't be too complex to add, though it may require some research, and modifying GRUB to do just that might require a lot of work. https://github.com/ventoy/Ventoy/releases/tag/v1.0.33, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5NFuDCZQ00, http://tinycorelinux.net/13.x/x86_64/release/. Keep reading to find out how to do this. I'll test it on a real hardware a bit later. Error message: Some modern systems are not compatible with Windows 7 UEFI64 (may hang) Currently, on x64 systems, Ventoy is able to run when Secure Boot is enabled, through the use of MokManager to enroll the certificate with which Ventoy's EFI executable is signed. (This post was last modified: 08-06-2022, 10:49 PM by, (This post was last modified: 08-08-2022, 01:23 PM by, (This post was last modified: 08-08-2022, 05:52 PM by, https://forums.ventoy.net/showthread.phpt=minitool, https://rmprepusb.blogspot.com/2018/11/art-to.html. There are also third-party tools that can be used to check faulty or fake USB sticks. Oh and obviously, once that is done, Ventoy will need to make sure that it's not possible to run an older versions of it, in a Secure Boot environment where a newer version has been enrolled, as it would still defeat the whole thing. Have a question about this project? 3. Tried the same ISOs in Easy2Boot and they worked for me. Joined Jul 18, 2020 Messages 4 Trophies 0 . . and leave it up to the user. By default, the ISO partition can not be mounted after boot Linux (will show device busy when you mount). Vmware) with UEFI mode and to confirm that the ISO file does support UEFI mode. @ValdikSS, I'm not seeing much being debated, when the link you point to appears to indicate that pretty much everybody is in agreement that loading unsigned kernels from GRUB, in a Secure Boot environment, is a bug (hence why it was reported as such). Ventoy does support Windows 10 and 11 and users can bypass the Windows 11 hardware check when installing. Now, that one can currently break the trust chain somewhere down the line, by inserting a malicious program at the first level where the trust stops being validated, which, incidentally, as a method (since I am NOT calling Ventoy malicious here) is very similar to what Ventoy is doing for Windows boot, is irrelevant to the matter, because one can very much conceive an OS that is being secured all the way (and, once again, if Microsoft were to start doing just that, then that would most likely mark the end of being able to use Ventoy with Windows ISOs since it would no longer be able to inject an executable that isn't signed by Microsoft as part of the boot process) and that validates the signature of every single binary it runs along the way which means that the trust chain needs to start somewhere and (as far as user providable binaries are concerned) that trust chain starts with Secure Boot. Menu Option-->Secure Boot Support for Ventoy2Disk.exe and -s option for Ventoy2Disk.sh Nierewa Junior Member. Great , I also tested it today on Kabylake , Skylake and Haswell platforms , booted quickly and well. And we've already been over whether USB should be treated differently than internal SATA or NVMe (which, in your opinion it should, and which in mine, and I will assert the majority of people who enable Secure Boot, it shouldn't). unsigned kernel still can not be booted. ^^ maybe a lenovo / thinkpad / thinkcentre issue ? All of these security things are there to mitigate risks. I've already disabled secure boot. If I am using Ventoy and I went the trouble of enrolling it for Secure Boot, I don't expect it to suddenly flag any unsigned or UEFI bootloader or bootloader with a broken signature, as bootable in a Secure Boot enabled environment. 2. to your account, Hi ! error was now displayed in 1080p. These WinPE have different user scripts inside the ISO files. I've made some tests this evening, it should be possible to make more-or-less proper Secure Boot support in Ventoy, but that would require modification of grub code to use shim protocol, and digital signatures for all Ventoy efi files, modules, etc. Ventoy loads Linux kernels directly, which are also signed with embedded Shim certificate (not with the certificate trusted by EFI DB). Just right-click on "This PC" on the desktop, select "Manage", and click on "Disk Management . sol-11_3-live-x86.iso | 1.22 GB, gnewsense-live-4.0-amd64-gnome.iso | 1.10 GB, hyperbola-milky-way-v0.3.1-dual.iso | 680 MB, kibojoe-17.09final-stable-x86_64-code21217.iso | 950 MB, uruk-gnu-linux-3.0-2020-6-alpha-1.iso | 1.35 GB, Redcore.Linux.Hardened.2004.KDE.amd64.iso | 3.5 GB, Drauger_OS-7.5.1-beta2-AMD64.iso | 1.8 GB, MagpieOS-Gnome-2.4-Eva-2018.10.01-x86_64.iso | 2.3 GB, kaisenlinuxrolling1.0-amd64.iso | 2.80 GB, chakra-2019.09.26-a022cb57-x86_64.iso | 2.7 GB, Regata_OS_19.1_en-US.x86_64-19.1.50.iso | 2.4 GB. Many thanks! all give ERROR on HP Laptop : I have used OSFMount to convert the img file of memtest v8 to iso but I have encountered the same issue. This option is enabled by default since 1.0.76. Go ahead and download Rufus from here. Mybe the image does not support X64 UEFI! I think it's ok as long as they don't break the secure boot policy. Does the iso boot from a VM as a virtual DVD? This option is enabled by default since 1.0.76. Also tested on Lenovo IdeaPad 300 16GB OK (UEFI64). If Secure Boot is not enabled, proceed as normal. This disk, after being installed on a USB flash drive and booted from, effectively disables Secure Boot protection features and temporary allows to perform almost all actions with the PC as if Secure Boot is disabled. Is Ventoy checking md5sums and refusing to load an iso that doesn't match or something? By clicking Sign up for GitHub, you agree to our terms of service and Format UDF in Windows: format x: /fs:udf /q (Haswell Processor) Tested in Memdisk and normal mode with 1.0.08b2. access with key cards) making sure that your safe does get installed there, so that it should give you an extra chance to detect ill intentioned people trying to access its content. Not associated with Microsoft. It does not contain efi boot files. @steve6375 I've mounted that partition and deleted EFI folder but it's still recognized as EFI, both in Windows Disk Management and the BIOS, just doesn't boot anymore. Turned out archlinux-2021.06.01-x86_64 is not compatible. Sorry for the late test. When install Ventoy, maybe an option for user to choose. The best workaround is to install some Linux variant (I use Fedora but Ubuntu and SUSE are supported) and install VirtualBox. Option 1: Completly by pass the secure boot like the current release. always used Archive Manager to do this and have never had an issue. 1: The Windows 7 USB/DVD Download Tool is not compatible with USB 3.0. So any method that allows users to boot their media without having to explicitly disable Secure Boot can be seen as a nice thing to have even if it comes at the price of reducing the overall security of one's computer. However, considering that in the case of Ventoy, you are basically going to chain load GRUB 2, and that most of the SHIMs have been designed to handle precisely that, it might be easier to get Ventoy accepted as a shim payload. The same applies to OS/2, eComStation etc. The only way to prevent misuse when booting from USB is to set a BIOS password (and perhaps a boot password), set the BIOS to not boot from USB and it won't hurt to also use an encrypted filesystem for the OS on the hard disk (bitlocker/LUKS). Download non-free firmware archive. using the direct ISO download method on MS website. Sorry, I meant to upgrade from the older version of Windows 11 to 22H2. Users can update Ventoy by installing the latest version or using VentoyU, a Ventoy updater utility. Then the process of reading your "TPM-secured" disk becomes as easy as: User awareness that their encrypted data was read: Nil. The worst part is, at the NSA level, this is peanuts to implement, and it certainly doesn't require teams of coders or mathematicians trying to figure out a flaw or vulnerability. and reboot.pro.. and to tinybit specially :) Already on GitHub? Ubuntu has shim which load only Ubuntu, etc. Posts: 15 Threads: 4 Joined: Apr 2020 Reputation: 0 0 "+String(e)+r);return new Intl.NumberFormat('en-US').format(Math.round(569086*a+n))}var rng=document.querySelector("#restoro-downloads");rng.innerHTML=gennr();rng.removeAttribute("id");var restoroDownloadLink=document.querySelector("#restoro-download-link"),restoroDownloadArrow=document.querySelector(".restoro-download-arrow"),restoroCloseArrow=document.querySelector("#close-restoro-download-arrow");if(window.navigator.vendor=="Google Inc."){restoroDownloadLink.addEventListener("click",function(){setTimeout(function(){restoroDownloadArrow.style.display="flex"},500),restoroCloseArrow.addEventListener("click",function(){restoroDownloadArrow.style.display="none"})});}. Use UltraISO for example and open Minitool.iso 4. Secure Boot is disabled in the BIOS on both systems, and the ISO boots just fine if I write it directly to a USB stick with Fedora Image Writer. Worked fine for me on my Thinkpad T420. Code that is subject to such a license that has already been signed might have that signature revoked. Adding an efi boot file to the directory does not make an iso uefi-bootable. They can choose to run a signed Ubuntu EFI file and Ventoy can change it's default function using scripts and file injection. Many thousands of people use Ventoy, the website has a list of tested ISOs. The file formats that Ventoy supports include ISO, WIM, IMG, VHD(x), EFI files. Ventoy has added experimental support for IA32 UEFI since v1.0.30. Minor one: when you try to start unsigned .efi executable, error message is shown for a very brief time and quickly disappears. Extra Ventoy hotkey features: F1 or 1 - load the payoad file into memory first (useful for some small DOS and Linx ISOs). By default, secure boot is enabled since version 1.0.76. I have this same problem. Format NTFS in Windows: format x: /fs:ntfs /q I rarely get any problems with other menu systems based on grub2\grub4dos\syslinux\isolinux, just Ventoy gives problems. This ISO file doesn't change the secure boot policy. You don't need anything special to create a UEFI bootable Arch USB. How did you get it to be listed by Ventoy? can u fix now ? Once here, scroll down and move to the "Download Windows 11 Disk Image (ISO) for x64 devices" section. That is to say, a WinPE.iso or ubuntu.iso file can be booted fine with secure boot enabled(even no need for the user to whitelist them) but it may contain a malicious application in it. Adding an efi boot file to the directory does not make an iso uefi-bootable. Boots, but cannot find root device. Which is why you want to have as many of these enabled in parallel when they exist (such as TPM + Secure Boot, i.e. GRUB2, from my experiences does this automatically. And, unless you're going to stand behind every single Ventoy user to explain why you think it shouldn't matter that Ventoy will let any unsigned bootloader through, that's just not going to fly. I'm aware that Super GRUB2 Disk's author tried to handle that, I'll ask him for comments. I made a VHD of an arch installation and installed the vtoyboot mod and it keeps on giving me the no UEFI error. debes desactivar secure boot en el bios-uefi This software will repair common computer errors, protect you from file loss, malware, hardware failure and optimize your PC for maximum performance. @ventoy, I've tested it only in qemu and it worked fine. You can reformat it with FAT32/NTFS/UDF/XFS/Ext2/Ext3/Ext4 filesystem, the only request is that Cluster Size must greater than or equal to 2048. How to mount the ISO partition in Linux after boot ? Test these ISO files with Vmware firstly. I can 3 options and option 3 is the default. When user whitelist Venoy that means they trust Ventoy (e.g. Maybe the image does not support x64 uefi . Well occasionally send you account related emails. gsrd90 New Member. they reviewed all the source code). Point 4 from Microsoft's official Secure Boot signing requirements states: Code submitted for UEFI signing must not be subject to GPLv3 or any license that purports to give someone the right to demand authorization keys to be able to install modified forms of the code on a device. @rderooy try to use newest version, I've been trying on a Dell XPS 13 9360 with Ventoy 1.0.34 UEFI running and Memtest86-4.3.7.iso does not work. I should also note that the key used in Ventoy is the same used in Super UEFIinSecureBoot Disk, my key. Yes ! You can use these commands to format it: Ventoy 1.0.55 is available already for download. Exactly. Does the iso boot from s VM as a virtual DVD? When you run into problem when booting an image file, please make sure that the file is not corrupted. Installation & Boot. check manjaro-gnome, not working. Ventoy also supports BIOS Legacy. FFS I just spent hours reinstalling arch just to get this in the end archlinux-2021.06.01-x86_64.iso with Ventoy 1.0.47 boots for me on Lenovo IdeaPad 300 UEFI64 boot. So even when someone physically unplugs my SSD and installs a malicious bootloader/OS to it, it won't be able to decrypt the main OS partition. I have absolutely no problem with letting the user choose if they want to run a bootloader that failed Secure Boot validation, and I think this might be the better way to do it indeed. Paragon ExtFS for Windows Thank you for your suggestions! Yep, the Rescuezilla v2.4 thing is not a problem with Ventoy. This means current is Legacy BIOS mode. Discovery and usage of shim protocol of loaded shim binary for global UEFI validation functions (validation policy override with shim verification), Shim protocol unregistration of loaded shim binary (to prevent confusion among shims of multiple vendors and registration of multiple protocols which are handled by different chainloaded shims). Ventoy is a free and open-source tool used to create bootable USB disks. Agreed. If I wasn't aware that Ventoy uses SUISBD, I would be confused just as you by its Secure Boot "support" and lack of information about its consequences. However, I guess it should be possible to automatically enroll ALL needed keys to shim from grub module on the first boot (when the user enrolls my ENROLL_THIS_CERT_INTO_MOKMANAGER.crt) and handle unsigned efi binaries as a special case or just require to sign them with user-generated key? Already on GitHub? The point of this issue is that people are under the impression that because Ventoy supports Secure Boot, they will get the same level of "security" booting Secure Boot compliant media through Ventoy as if they had booted that same media directly, which is indeed a fair expectation to have, since the whole point of boot media creation software is to have the converted media behave as close as possible as the original would. Secure Boot was supported from Ventoy 1.0.07, an option for secure boot is added in Ventoy2Disk.exe/Ventoy2Disk.sh. When the user is away again, remove your TPM-exfiltration CPU and place the old one back. But, UEFI:NTFS is not a SHIM and that's actually the reason why it could be signed by Microsoft (once I switched the bootloader license from GPLv3+ to GPLv2+ and rewrote a UEFI driver derived from GPLv2+ code, which I am definitely not happy at all about), because, in a Secure Boot enabled environment, it can not be used to chain load anything that isn't itself Secure Boot signed. You can open the ISO in 7zip and look for yourself. MediCAT Let us know in the comments which solution worked for you. If you did the above as described, exactly, then you now have a good Ventoy install of latest version, but /dev/sdX1 will be type exFAT and we want to change that to ext4, so start gparted, find that partition (make sure it is unmounted via right click in gparted), format it to ext4 and make sure to . ventoy_x64.efi/ventoy_util_x64.efi ) , they do need digital signatures. That's not at all how I see it (and from what I read above also not @ventoy sees it). the main point of Secure Boot is to allow TPM to validate the running system before releasing stored keys, isn't it? Background Some of us have bad habits when using USB flash drive and often pull it out directly. After install, the 1st larger partition is empty, and no files or directories in it. Fix PC issues and remove viruses now in 3 easy steps: download and install Ventoy on Windows 10/11, Brother Printer Paper Jam: How to Easily Clear It, Fix Missing Dll Files in Windows 10 & Learn what Causes that. That is just to make sure it has really written the whole Ventoy install onto the usb stick. Besides, I'm considering that: Ventoy doesn't load the kernel directly inside the ISO file(e.g. This means current is ARM64 UEFI mode. This filesystem offers better compatibility with Window OS, macOS, and Linux. Rik. I have some systems which won't offer legacy boot option if UEFI is present at the same time. So, Secure Boot is not required for TPM-based encryption to work correctly. EndeavourOS_Atlantis_neo-21_5.iso boots OK using UEFI64 on Ventoy and grubfm. Option 1: doesn't support secure boot at all 5. espero les sirva, pueden usar rufus, ventoy, easy to boot, etc. They boot from Ventoy just fine. Can't install Windows 7 ISO, no install media found ? "No bootfile found for UEFI! ***> wrote: 2.-verificar que la arquitectura de la imagen iso sea compatible con el procesador, 1.-modo uefi:

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